>> lindsay lohan. >> but how do you set boundaries without alienating your kids? >> i don't know if you can. >> well, i think the boundaries are what's important. you're going to be a parent and not put your personal problems and anxieties on the kids, but you're also going to be open and allow your kids to disagree with you sometimes. it doesn't mean that there are no rules, but that they have an open voice so they can explore who they are as an individual. part of becoming an individual is saying, hey, here's what my family origin taught me. i'm going to keep some of these values but take these new ones from my peer group. >> absolutely. become an individual. >> and your mom, as i understand, in adult life, had trouble with you accepting -- or she had trouble accepting some of the things you adopted. >> well, i mean, we couldn't have been more different if you cast us blindfolded with ear plugs in. look at us. this is my mom's biggest fantasy, me in a ka tillon that she really wanted me to do and i did that for her. i was a tomboy wearing dock martins and army j